I bought both welding torches and the cutting torch also. The welding torches are amazing in design and quality. I weld a good bit of 55 gallon drum metal (18 ga .042" thick) and these torches are really good for thin metals like this. I have also welded the black banding metal with the torches (.027" thick). I have also welded 304 stainless steel round bar (1/8" diameter) with the torches and they work good for this also. I intend on doing more metal yard art and these torches will be fine for this type of work. I also have Mig ang Tig machines but enjoy using these torches very much. I recommend these torches to anyone doing metal work. They will expand your metalworking capabilities very much.